Do his actions throughout the novel warrant his death at the end? In other words, do his actions throughout the novel justify his untimely death?
I think Thorin was a good leader, but his lust for gold was just more deadly than the other dwarves'. I think it's because the gold was deeply connected with Thorin's past so it would have the treasure meant more to him than it did to the other dwarves and Bilbo.
I don't believe that his actions warranted his death, but a lot of times, the characters die whether their actions warranted it or not. Fili and Kili for example.
Do his actions throughout the novel warrant his death at the end? In other words, do his actions throughout the novel justify his untimely death?
I dont think so because he doesnt really thank the men of the town for their hospitality, but in the end Thorin regains his friendship with Bilbo. So, I think he does justify his leadership in the end.
Do his actions throughout the novel warrant his death at the end? In other words, do his actions throughout the novel justify his untimely death?
I think Thorin is, in a sense, a hero. And throughout a lot of books the leader that eveyone looks up to, slips up, usually really bladly, and loses his leadership. But wrongs and rights have consequences, and the fact that he was a selfish jerk (Putting it mildly), cuased most to not care or rejoice at his death. As I said, in a sense Thorin is a hero. It probably took a lot for him to apologize in the end.
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Do his actions throughout the novel warrant his death at the end? In other words, do his actions throughout the novel justify his untimely death?
Mostly at the end where he becomes greedy and obstinate about the treasure wanting it all for himself and his dwarves reguardless of the fact that the towns people deserved some of the treasure because Bilbo and Thorin and Co. set the dragon off on the towns people. It's not like the dragon's attacked the town for a while, at least not until they came.
Do his actions throughout the novel warrant his death at the end? In other words, do his actions throughout the novel justify his untimely death?
Oh geez.... That's a toughie. I, personally, don't..... like Thorin. He was a selfish snob if you ask me.
Sure, he died like a "hero," but it was his fault the whole battle STARTED. If he had just given Bard the share in the first place, things would've turned out quite differently. Oh well. That's just my opinion, anyway.
Do his actions throughout the novel warrant his death at the end? In other words, do his actions throughout the novel justify his untimely death?
He kinda got selfish so I think that his death was exacterated.I think that he could have died a little less dramatic and it would have save Bilbo lots of pain and sorrow.
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Do his actions throughout the novel warrant his death at the end? In other words, do his actions throughout the novel justify his untimely death?
I don't think that necissarily he was a heroic leader by whjat he did, but automattically dubbed a hero and gien a major role by having owned the treasure at a time and getting one nof the goblin swords. But his actions were not really well thought out or heroic, and probably did lad to his emminent death.
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Do his actions throughout the novel warrant his death at the end? In other words, do his actions throughout the novel justify his untimely death?
I think Thorin is a hero because if he didn't want to go after his trreasure then there would have never been peace among all the creatures in the end. Also his actions when he's about to die and he asks Bilbo to forgive him make him a hero because he found his fault and he asked for forgiveness and found the good in Bilbo. He was also determine to find the treasusre and he never gave up. He has good qualities of a hero like listening to others ideas (Bilbo's). He also looks out for his companions and never gives up; he fights till the end.
Do his actions throughout the novel warrant his death at the end? In other words, do his actions throughout the novel justify his untimely death?
I think that Thorin is somewhat of a hero. He obviously was the master of the dwarves from the beginning and was their role model. When the company became closer to Bilbo it was almost like Thorin got pushed out from being the leader. Also he takes care of the company and looks out for them. The war would still be going on if Thorin wouldn't have settled peace among the Lonely Mountain. In my opinion Bilbo and Thorin shared the part of being the leaders of all the dwarves.
Do his actions throughout the novel warrant his death at the end? In other words, do his actions throughout the novel justify his untimely death?
Well in some ways I can see why Thorin would act the way he did because after all the travelers had been through he kind of felt like they deserved the whole share of treasure. But he also made this assumtion without taking into consideration what the people of Esgaroth [more as Bard], went through also. Well in a way he did sort of bring this upon himself because he chose not to surrender and give up a little of what he wanted, which pretty much started the whole battle, thus his death.
Do his actions throughout the novel warrant his death at the end? In other words, do his actions throughout the novel justify his untimely death?
Ya he kind of got what he deserved in the end in the beginning he was just a little mean and in the middle he wasnt to bad but once he got to the treasure he was just mean and greedy dying in the end he deserved it only from the treasure part
Do his actions throughout the novel warrant his death at the end? In other words, do his actions throughout the novel justify his untimely death?
I think this question can go either way. I don't believe that there is a specific right answer for this question. So saying that, in my opinion, I believe that Thorin is a heroic leader. Although it was Bilbo's journey,I believe that Thorin became a heroic leader in the end. I am a firm believer of another chance and although Thorin made some mistakes, was greedy and foolish,rude and wicked;he also overcame a lot of obstacles and challeges within and without. After all, before he died, he tried to make peace with Bilbo. I don't believe that his actions throughout the journey justified his death.
Do his actions throughout the novel warrant his death at the end? In other words, do his actions throughout the novel justify his untimely death?
I think he was a leader and a hero for his actions in the battle, but he wasn't indispensable during the journey. The Company probably would have made it to the mountain anyway without him if he died along the way.
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Do his actions throughout the novel warrant his death at the end? In other words, do his actions throughout the novel justify his untimely death?
I think Thorin is an okay leader. I mean he could he stepped it up some but I think Bilbo was more of a leader. In the Forest Thorin did okay but he was a bad leader when they found the treasure because he became selfish and greedy. I think most of his actions did lead up to his death.
Do his actions throughout the novel warrant his death at the end? In other words, do his actions throughout the novel justify his untimely death?
Not neccessarily. I personally don't believe that Thorin was heroic. A leader, maybe, but not heroic. If not for his selfishness, then the whole battle at the end would have never started. So kind of, I guess.
Do his actions throughout the novel warrant his death at the end? In other words, do his actions throughout the novel justify his untimely death?
I think he is definately a leader, because he has the power to convince people to follow him, but I don't think he is necessarily heroic. He backed away in the face of danger multiple times, like when they finally opened the secret door Thorin basically said "okay Bilbo you're the theif, so you go put yoursef in danger for my gain." which I think a true hero would never do. A hero would step up to a challenge and try his/her best. AND I think he is too selfish to be a true hero because a hero wouldn't start a war and endanger other people's lives just because he wanted to keep all of the money to himself. I think his actions throughout he novel don't justify his death, because nobody is perfect and everybody has their flaws, but I think he brought his own death upon himself.
Do his actions throughout the novel warrant his death at the end? In other words, do his actions throughout the novel justify his untimely death?
I dont think he was a very good leader, but i thin that in the end of the novel he started to show very heroic qualities.Such as when the goblins and wargs were attacking and he came to the rescue.In the begining of the book i would have never thought Thorin would go help people...let alone the peolp that wanted a part of the treasure he worked so hard to find.
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Do his actions throughout the novel warrant his death at the end? In other words, do his actions throughout the novel justify his untimely death?
I never thought he was really a great leader, he doubted Bilbo most of the time. And I think his death was like a punishment for losing faith in Bilbo. I think he deserved the death; Bilbo had helped him the whole time and then Thorin completely bashes Bilbo.
Do his actions throughout the novel warrant his death at the end? In other words, do his actions throughout the novel justify his untimely death?
I think that over all he does do a pretty good job of maybe not necessarily leading the dwarves but keeping them as happy as he could. When I think about any of my friends and me taking that long of a trip we would have been bound to get in a fight before it was all over. Although I wouldn't go so far as to call him a hero. His death is warranted a little by his greed. He kind of lost sight of what his ultimate goal was but ended up apologizing to Bilbo in the end. I think that it was only fitting that he die and be burried under the mountain with his father. Now that he could rest in peace with the dragon being dead and the city of Dale being re-built. Sometimes it takes a lot of courage to stand up and be a leader and you cant always expect your leader to be perfect because their human too.
Do his actions throughout the novel warrant his death at the end? In other words, do his actions throughout the novel justify his untimely death?
I think he deserved what he got. First he criticizes Gandalf for choosing Bilbo, then he thinks Bilbo's a help, then he gets mad at him again for the Arkenstone and then apologizes for everything. At least he does realize his actions were wrong.
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Do his actions throughout the novel warrant his death at the end? In other words, do his actions throughout the novel justify his untimely death?
well, i don't really think that thorin was "heroic" i mean he was a great leader and all. He kept everything in line, made important decisions and did his best to keep them happy but he wasn't exactly a hero. Now if you call getting them there in the 1st place a hero then maybe but yeah..... so i also fell kinda bad for him because he went all this way and then died. so i don't really know if his actions justify his death but he did just die it shocked me. Especially because this journey was made for him.
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Do his actions throughout the novel warrant his death at the end? In other words, do his actions throughout the novel justify his untimely death?
A hero, yes. But, a heroic leader? I guess. He wasn't the best leader, but he was a good one. I don't get the second question though. It was nice to see someone important on our side die or that would imbalance everything. What he did before his death justifies himself. :)
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Do his actions throughout the novel warrant his death at the end? In other words, do his actions throughout the novel justify his untimely death?
nope i think that bilbo is the real hero in the story without him they wouldnt even had gotten though the what like 6 or 7 chapter without bilbo so no i really dont think thorin is a hero he was just tagging along to get his arkenstone
Do his actions throughout the novel warrant his death at the end? In other words, do his actions throughout the novel justify his untimely death?
i think Thorin was an OK leader but he wasn't brave and he wasn't heroic.i think he brought on the his death because he was greedy and wanted the treasure.
Do his actions throughout the novel warrant his death at the end? In other words, do his actions throughout the novel justify his untimely death?
I think they do. I believe Thorin's greed and unwillingness to share his fame is part of what led to his death. If he had not been so stubborn, he could have avoided war.
Do his actions throughout the novel warrant his death at the end? In other words, do his actions throughout the novel justify his untimely death?
He's was a leader, but he was willing to go to war and endanger his friends to satisfy his ambitions. I want to say he was a kind, noble hero, but he made Biblo go down the tunnel first after HIS treasure, and he wanted all the treasure for himself, no matter what the cost. He died with good words, but lived surrounding himself with bad....stuff. I don't think he deserved to die, but honestly *sigh* I don't think he was much of a hero.
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Do his actions throughout the novel warrant his death at the end? In other words, do his actions throughout the novel justify his untimely death?
I don't think he was much of a leader, I think he was almost kind of full of himself, you know, being the 'King under the Mountain' and everything, and was kind of a jerk to Bilbo and others throughout the whole story.
Do his actions throughout the novel warrant his death at the end? In other words, do his actions throughout the novel justify his untimely death?
I think that Thorin was a great leader, but sometimes he needed to listen to Bilbo and not be afraid to take chances. Bilbo mostly got the dwarves out of trouble.
Do his actions throughout the novel warrant his death at the end? In other words, do his actions throughout the novel justify his untimely death?
I think Thorin was a good leader at first, but I think he was only being a good leader so that they would help him make it to the mountain, and once he got the gold he changed into a differeny person and didn't want to share or help others at all.
Do his actions throughout the novel warrant his death at the end? In other words, do his actions throughout the novel justify his untimely death?
I think Thorin is a hero and a good leader. He lead his people through a lot of stuff without Gandalf and even though he died in the end he did it in a heroic manner.
If he had not been so stubborn, he could have avoided war.
