There are several examples of characters who are greedy. Who are they, and what do their experiences tell us about Tolkien's views about people who are greedy? What are YOUR views?
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There are several examples of characters who are greedy. Who are they, and what do their experiences tell us about Tolkien's views about people who are greedy? What are YOUR views?
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Thorin and the Master are the two biggest examples of greedy characters. It seems that Tolkien dislikes greedy people, but who doesn't? That's just a conjecture, but it's based on the fact that both Thorin and the Master ended up dying, although Thorin died in a more noble way.
I think that everyone is greedy. It's just that some people are more greedy than others. There's likely a huge gap between the most greedy person on Earth, and the least greedy person. Everyone's greedy because it's human nature to be greedy, even though people are greedy on different subjects. Such as some people being gluttons, others being completely absorbed in money.
There are several examples of characters who are greedy. Who are they, and what do their experiences tell us about Tolkien's views about people who are greedy? What are YOUR views?
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ONe of them is the master of the lake town and I think Tolkien's views express that who are greedy will end up broke or dying in the end(kinda like Thorin).
There are several examples of characters who are greedy. Who are they, and what do their experiences tell us about Tolkien's views about people who are greedy? What are YOUR views?
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Thorin was greedy then he died at the end, after realizing he was being greedy and apologizing first. Then the Master was greedy and died, although he didn't have an epiphany about it or anything. I bet he hates selfishness and is one to share what he has. I think that everyone gets greedy sometimes but those who care only about themselves get what comes to them. Think of the starving people in Africa!
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There are several examples of characters who are greedy. Who are they, and what do their experiences tell us about Tolkien's views about people who are greedy? What are YOUR views?
-- Edited by Koolteecha at 06:01, 2008-01-22
all of the dwarves- especially Thorin- get greedy about the treasure. Bard and the elvenking however, are also greedy about getting their just amount, even though they desrve it anyway. Bilbo and a few of the dwarves are greedy for food (as are the spiders _._) The wood-elves are also greedy about their own treasure. Basically everyone has a little bit of greed in them, but everyone has faults.
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There are several examples of characters who are greedy. Who are they, and what do their experiences tell us about Tolkien's views about people who are greedy? What are YOUR views?
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Well to start off, bard after he kills smaug he goes up to the mountain and just expects to be rewarded greatly so.... but then at one point with the arkenstone bilbo was kinda greedy. He knew that thorin wanted it but he was going to keep it for himself... And then of course we have smaug who i would say is the greediest of them all. He destroyed dale and took all of the treasure for himslef and sits on his mountain and guards it. It's not like he can use it or anything he just sits there and guards it. I mean you can't get much more greedy than that.
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There are several examples of characters who are greedy. Who are they, and what do their experiences tell us about Tolkien's views about people who are greedy? What are YOUR views?
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Greed can be found in pretty much everybody. (I mean in the world... our world.) Thorin was one, the Master was another. I believe Thorin died and the Master caught the dragon sickness. So he must believe that those who are greedy shall peerish! My views on what? People who are greedy? I don't know, really. Maybe OCD is what some have. :)
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There are several examples of characters who are greedy. Who are they, and what do their experiences tell us about Tolkien's views about people who are greedy? What are YOUR views?
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Thorin as well as all the dwarves (but mostly Thorin) become greedy, the master becomes/ is / was greedy, and smaug is greedy. It tells us that greedy people dont usually come to the best of ends and aren't popular with the people around them. I usually don't like greedy people and tend to avoid them.... even though im kind of one of them. It just usually depends on what they're greedy for and how obsessive they are about it.
There are several examples of characters who are greedy. Who are they, and what do their experiences tell us about Tolkien's views about people who are greedy? What are YOUR views?
-- Edited by Koolteecha at 06:01, 2008-01-22
Thorin is definately greedy, and he gets killed in the battle. The elf king is sort of greedy and he only gets some jewels from Bilbo. Bard is sort of greedy, wanting 1/12 and he gets the share. So Tolkien most of the time doesn't like greedy people.
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There are several examples of characters who are greedy. Who are they, and what do their experiences tell us about Tolkien's views about people who are greedy? What are YOUR views?
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Although, all of the dwarves were greedy, Thorin had them beat. Just because of his lust for treasure( mainly gold.).[spoiler]
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There are several examples of characters who are greedy. Who are they, and what do their experiences tell us about Tolkien's views about people who are greedy? What are YOUR views?
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I think the examples of greed are kinda like "moral of the story".
Maybe Tolkien is trying to portray the idea that those who are greedy may be happy and rich, but the end result is never really what they want. i.e.- Thorin dying, and the Master losing his position.
There are several examples of characters who are greedy. Who are they, and what do their experiences tell us about Tolkien's views about people who are greedy? What are YOUR views?
-- Edited by Koolteecha at 06:01, 2008-01-22
Thorin in parts smaug and the master are all good examples.
There are several examples of characters who are greedy. Who are they, and what do their experiences tell us about Tolkien's views about people who are greedy? What are YOUR views?
-- Edited by Koolteecha at 06:01, 2008-01-22
Well the first one that comes to mind is Thorin. He ends up dieing in the end so I'm guessing Tolkien doesnt like greedy people, but then again it kind of made it special that he was a able to rest in peace without a dragon alive, and be burried under the mountain next to his father. Bilbo is also sort of greedy when it comes to food. It is sort of like an obsession and you can tell that he over eats a lot of the time. My opinion on Greed is that it is like a nasty habit and the greedier you become the harder it is to resist.
There are several examples of characters who are greedy. Who are they, and what do their experiences tell us about Tolkien's views about people who are greedy? What are YOUR views?
-- Edited by Koolteecha at 06:01, 2008-01-22
I think one of the biggest characters that is greedy in the novel is Smaug,and Thorin the big difference between these two is they both died but Thorin died a somw what noble death and Smaug died a death that was wnting more gold and or greed.
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There are several examples of characters who are greedy. Who are they, and what do their experiences tell us about Tolkien's views about people who are greedy? What are YOUR views?
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Bard, the Master of lake town and Thorin are all very greedy!!!The way I think Tolkien sees them is that they are rude and need to become more giving.I think this because the way that Thorin died kinda says that he doesn't like the greedy people!!
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There are several examples of characters who are greedy. Who are they, and what do their experiences tell us about Tolkien's views about people who are greedy? What are YOUR views?
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I personally think that Thorin and the Master were the two that were greedy.The Master caught the dragon sickness an Thorin I think was just greedy to begin with in which resulted to their deaths.
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There are several examples of characters who are greedy. Who are they, and what do their experiences tell us about Tolkien's views about people who are greedy? What are YOUR views?
-- Edited by Koolteecha at 06:01, 2008-01-22
The dwarves (especially Thorin) and the Master of Lake town are the most greedy characters in this book. Bard seems a little greedy at first, but I don't think he is because as he is saying goodbye to Bilbo he says that if it were up to him, he would have given more money to Bilbo, which is a not greedy thing to do, and he used his share of the money to rebuild Esragoth instead of keeping it all for himself, so I think he was just wanting his share of the money to help out his friends and townspeople for their well-being. The experiences of the greedy people, namely Thorin and the Master of Laketown, show us that Tolkien probably doesn't like or appreciate greedy whatsoever, given that the two greediest characters die. I think that it isn't a very admirable quality to be greedy, but then again everybody has flaws so that doesn't really mean they deserve to die, because if it did there probably wouldn't be anyone alive on Earth.
There are several examples of characters who are greedy. Who are they, and what do their experiences tell us about Tolkien's views about people who are greedy? What are YOUR views?
-- Edited by Koolteecha at 06:01, 2008-01-22
Thorin and the Master are two very important people that were greedy. Apparently Tolkien's views on greedy people are negative. To be more specific, she doesn't look very highly of them and does not think that they deserve the opportunities that selfless people deserve. In my view, 99.9% of the time,(not a proven fact)selfish and greedy people are just hoarding material items to fill in what they don't have in their life. Not to get all deep and stuff.But, since they can't have the physical things they need and yearn for, they use greed and hoard to cover up that need. They are not really satisfied, it may appear that they are, but in reality they are just deprived of their loneliness and void of what they need. I feel sorry for greedy people actually, it is pretty pathetic how they can be so selfish just because they don't want the "other person" to get a hold of it, even though they don't want it themselves. So in conclusion, greedy people are not really happy and they may not experience true happiness until they are dirt poor and living in poverty.
There are several examples of characters who are greedy. Who are they, and what do their experiences tell us about Tolkien's views about people who are greedy? What are YOUR views?
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Thorin and the master were greedy and they died. Even though Thorin asked for forgiveness still bad happend to him. I think the author does not like greedy people. I don't like people who only think of themselves.
There are several examples of characters who are greedy. Who are they, and what do their experiences tell us about Tolkien's views about people who are greedy? What are YOUR views?
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Everyone wanted the treasure. The Elves, Men, dwarves, wargs, and goblins all wanted it for themselves. But I think it was especially greedy of Thorin and the dwarves to not give up ANY of the treasure. I think that Tolkien probably was around a lot of greed and didn't like it, so he wrote about greed escalating and becoming a war.
There are several examples of characters who are greedy. Who are they, and what do their experiences tell us about Tolkien's views about people who are greedy? What are YOUR views?
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Well I think Smaug is the greediest character because he killed all of the dwarves and stole all of their treasure from the mountain.And what did he do with it , he slept on it.
There are several examples of characters who are greedy. Who are they, and what do their experiences tell us about Tolkien's views about people who are greedy? What are YOUR views?
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I think the greediest characters consider themselves the hero but never live up to it because they are so greedy. To me, Thorin is one of the geediest characters because he spends so much time relying on Bilbo. Maybe Tolkien's views suggest the reason Thorin dies. He ended up....."gone"All because he was greedy
There are several examples of characters who are greedy. Who are they, and what do their experiences tell us about Tolkien's views about people who are greedy? What are YOUR views?
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Name-Greedy Rating Smaug-10 Thorin-8 Bard-4 (Well, it was rightfully his...) Bilbo-1 (The ArkenStone) =) Dwarves-3 Master of Laketown- 6
Tolkien's view is probably that those who are greedy and don't share usually don't end up getting what they want and they will not be succesfull. Thorin dies, Smaug dies, and the Master is no longer The Master. My opinions on greedy people....hmmm... Well, almost everyone has wanted something in there life, and there's nothing wrong with that. It kind of depends on what you call greedy, to determine who is greedy. I don't think people who are greedy will or should succeed in whatever the set out to "take". Those greedy people who do have what they want, whether it be money or a job position, are probably missing a few friends right now, or have lost the respct of others.
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There are several examples of characters who are greedy. Who are they, and what do their experiences tell us about Tolkien's views about people who are greedy? What are YOUR views?
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I would say that Thorin and Bard are good examples of greedy people in the book. I don't think that Tolkein likes greedy people because Thorin died and right before he died he said sorry to Bilbo. Bard just expected a share in the treasure once he killed Smaug and ended up getting 1/14th share instead of 1/12th, so I guess that is how Tolkein " punished" him for being greedy. I thimk that if you are greedy, than no one will like you because you always want everything. Also you become arragant and ****y and no one wants to be your friend or be around you. So it is just a good idea to not be greedy in the first place.
There are several examples of characters who are greedy. Who are they, and what do their experiences tell us about Tolkien's views about people who are greedy? What are YOUR views?
-- Edited by Koolteecha at 06:01, 2008-01-22
okay i think that thorin is not that greedy he only wanted one peice of the treasure but i think that the elvenking is kinda greedy wanting evrything but i guess thorin was kinda greedy by not wanting to share gold with bard and the rest of his people but well i might not have wanted to either
There are several examples of characters who are greedy. Who are they, and what do their experiences tell us about Tolkien's views about people who are greedy? What are YOUR views?
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I have to say Throrin had to be the greediest person in the book he was willing to start wars just because he didnt want to give up a little gold again it is gold and its hard to give it up but they were kind of his friends and when thorin and the dudes first came into their town they fed them and gave them shelter he could have at least repayed them.
There are several examples of characters who are greedy. Who are they, and what do their experiences tell us about Tolkien's views about people who are greedy? What are YOUR views?
-- Edited by Koolteecha at 06:01, 2008-01-22
All the dwarves get greedy when they see the treasure but who wouldn't?? I think the Tolkien dosen't really seem greedy but I think in that situation that many people would become greedy because thats wealth that would last you forever.Thats why Smaug did it because even though he didn't need it he still wanted it and that was very greedy!!
There are several examples of characters who are greedy. Who are they, and what do their experiences tell us about Tolkien's views about people who are greedy? What are YOUR views?
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I think that everyone is greedy. They all want part of the treasure, and most of them would do anything to get some of it. Or, like Thorin, keep anybody from getting it.(:
There are several examples of characters who are greedy. Who are they, and what do their experiences tell us about Tolkien's views about people who are greedy? What are YOUR views?
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I think since Tolkien made the "greedy" Master die that he might not like those kind of people because they have nothing to look foward to in life. I kind of agree with his views about greedy people.
There are several examples of characters who are greedy. Who are they, and what do their experiences tell us about Tolkien's views about people who are greedy? What are YOUR views?
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Thorin, I think, is the biggest & best example of greed in this. And I think Tolkien's views on it is like, you shouldn't be greedy and worry about stupid stuff like how much treasure you're going to get, cause you're going to be gone soon enough anyways, and it's not even going to matter? Ha, well that's what I got out of it.
There are several examples of characters who are greedy. Who are they, and what do their experiences tell us about Tolkien's views about people who are greedy? What are YOUR views?
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Smug is the biggest greedy character in the book. Tolkien eventually kills him so that is kind of his point of view. I think that greed corrupts people untill they will do any thing to keep their "precious" with them.
There are several examples of characters who are greedy. Who are they, and what do their experiences tell us about Tolkien's views about people who are greedy? What are YOUR views?
-- Edited by Koolteecha at 06:01, 2008-01-22
Thorin and the Master are the two biggest examples of greedy characters. It seems that Tolkien dislikes greedy people, but who doesn't? That's just a conjecture, but it's based on the fact that both Thorin and the Master ended up dying, although Thorin died in a more noble way.
I think that everyone is greedy. It's just that some people are more greedy than others. There's likely a huge gap between the most greedy person on Earth, and the least greedy person. Everyone's greedy because it's human nature to be greedy, even though people are greedy on different subjects. Such as some people being gluttons, others being completely absorbed in money.
Bilbo seems greedy at times as well! Whenhe found the Arkenstone, he knew Thorin was looking for it!!! The author seems to think that greedy people come even in the most important people! My views are the same!
There are several examples of characters who are greedy. Who are they, and what do their experiences tell us about Tolkien's views about people who are greedy? What are YOUR views?
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Smaug is greedy because he stole all that treasure and knew when Bilbo took the golden cup and wanted it back, but then he was killed by Bard. Thorin was greedy by not letting Bard get any treasure at first and he gets killed also, so that probably meens Tolkien views that those who are greedy are bad and so do I.
There are several examples of characters who are greedy. Who are they, and what do their experiences tell us about Tolkien's views about people who are greedy? What are YOUR views?
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Thorin is by far the greediest person in the book, and i think Tolkien thinks poorly of greedy people. In the book Thorin gets helped by the lake men and the lake men even killed Smaug, but Smaug destroyed their town and he still didn't want to help them at all.
There are several examples of characters who are greedy. Who are they, and what do their experiences tell us about Tolkien's views about people who are greedy? What are YOUR views?
-- Edited by Koolteecha at 06:01, 2008-01-22
First of all, Smaug is extremely greedy and doesn't think twice about not sharing the treasure with anybody, then Bilbo is a little greedy with the Arken Stone because even though he knows that Thorin wants it he still wants to keep it for himself, and then Thorin was also really greedy with his treasure at first and won't sare it with anyone but towards the end he apologizes for it.
There are several examples of characters who are greedy. Who are they, and what do their experiences tell us about Tolkien's views about people who are greedy? What are YOUR views?
-- Edited by Koolteecha at 06:01, 2008-01-22
Although there are several i think the greediest character is the Elvinking. THe dwarves won't even tell him that they are questing gold because they know he will want a share. I also think that Thorin is greedy. He isn't even willing to give up a little bit of the treasure to make peace.
